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Not so young anymore.'s avatar

Thanks yes this is all correct what you wrote here. This simply is a travesty.

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Grow Some Labia's avatar

Got another one coming out in a few more weeks about a woman who *didn't* allow a rape to ruin her, inspired by Marcus's feminist rape-theory mistakes.

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Sufeitzy's avatar

The only way she could prove her case would be for him to say he had sex with her without her consent, or with physical evidence that it were true indépendant of his recollection. (I’m leaving iPhone corrections which provide decorative and useless accents)

They clearly had consensual sex in the form of sleeping nude together. She seems to have admitted such. The specifics of activities thereafter and how well it worked is complete speculation. Wake-up sex is not the most easily remembered, or dissuaded. When I wake up, as a man, with a man, with a morning hardon I just want to pee.

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Grow Some Labia's avatar

"Wake-up sex is not the most easily remembered, or dissuaded. When I wake up, as a man, with a man, with a morning hardon I just want to pee."

I don't know about that. I had a boyfriend who'd wake up with a hardon and press it into my backside hoping I'd wake up and do something about it. I am NOT a morning person in or out of bed. I told him evening works much better for me, at least during the week since when I get up I have to get ready for work (or did before my home because my office). Weekend mornings? No problem. I don't really believe wake-up sex 'isn't easily remembered', esp if you wake up to find you're having sex you haven't consented to.

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Sufeitzy's avatar

Uh, I’ve had partners do precisely the same thing to me [smiling at how precisely you described it too]. And I prefer sex when im fully awake and participating in the pleasure of my partner. But I think there’s a crisp line between not wanting something and non-consent. Same as there’s a difference between discomfort over one’s sex and wanting to be another sex, or not being attracted to someone versus racial animus.

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Sufeitzy's avatar

In science you need to pose questions which are falsifiable. You can’t say “ghosts exist” which is essentially unfalsifiable because to make it false you have show simultaneously in all circumstances where ghosts are supposed to appear no ghost appears. You can say ghosts don’t exist, and you have the simple task of documenting one single apparition.

For the accuser, the situation poses jeopardy, since now either the accused is guilty, or the accuser has committed slander.

That’s the ultimate situation as you say. In cases where it is one person’s word against another, presumption of innocence is the winner, slander is the loser.

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Grow Some Labia's avatar

Yes, I thought of that. He can't prove his innocence any more than she can prove his guilt. Marcus's accusation has that taint you see in so many cancel culture pile-ons; it smacks of just trying to ruin someone else, even though I watched a recent YouTube video that she did in which she seems sincere in her belief that she was raped. But the optics aren't good and she's made it easier to disbelieve other victims.

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HeartOpen's avatar

Excellent points.

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