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Jason David's avatar

The wrathful do not understand that the victory goes to those who win over a majority, which means winning over moderate people, which means you do not demonize whole groups wantonly.

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Steven's avatar

Hi, MAGA Republican here, I appreciate the article and have a few polite thoughts to share for added context.

First, you can safely put me in your Islamojustiphobe category. Unlike what seems to be most Americans, I actually have a passing familiarity with the various strains of Islam, courtesy of two deployments to the Middle East, and recognize that there's a world of difference between, say, Wahabi terrorism and political Quietism. I do not favor religious discrimination against other relatively mainstream religions (basically anything that doesn't mandate murder and is inclined to be likewise tolerant, so not the majority of Muslims who say they want to impose Shari'a Law here, but yes to the minority who say they don't. Live and let live).

Secondly, a few factual points. Unless it's changed significantly since the last time I was there, U.S. aid is almost never actually branded as originating from the U.S. when distributed in the Middle East. Any clear association with the US is considered a security risk to both the aid workers and the recipients, due to soft targets associated with the US tending to be high on the list of terrorist targets. So while a reduction in foreign aid from the US may be unfortunate in many ways, it wasn't generating public good will for us in the first place because almost everyone involved denied OUR involvement.

Likewise, "I wonder if Trump will try a Muslim ban again; he might succeed this time in a more broken, more lawless America." is factually incorrect. The countries on the ban list were all taken from an existing list maintained by the State Department under the prior administration identifying countries that were unable or unwilling to cooperate with even the bare minimum existing standards of identity verification and background checks. Countries on that list included both majority Muslim countries and non majority Muslim countries, the standards used to generate the list had literally nothing to do with religion and everything to do with rates of crime, terrorism, and reliable cooperation with standard security checks. Trump merely stopped letting countries slide that we already knew weren't meeting our neutral standards. You are welcome to draw your own conclusions about whether being majority Muslim had anything to do with high crime, terrorism, and unreliable governance in general, but the fact is that the ban did NOT include many majority Muslim countries that DID provide adequate cooperation with our security checks.

I think we agree on favoring legal immigration by decent people from anywhere, of any religion, that genuinely respect this nation, want to assimilate here (at least to the extent of being law abiding and 'Live and let live ' tolerance for others), and have the skills to fend for themselves in our economy, with appropriate security safeguards against illegal immigration and keeping out criminals and terrorists. Funnily enough, I see that as precisely the MAGA position on the topic, but if you're uncomfortable openly agreeing with MAGA about anything I won't press the point.

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